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The Pandemic of Emotionally Immature Men I Dr. David Hawkins on Why Men Stay Boys

The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

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Dr. David Hawkins joins me to unpack one of the ugliest elephants in the sanctuary — emotionally immature and narcissistic men hiding behind faith and authority. We talk control masked as leadership, the psychology of “hopium,” and why so many Christian marriages quietly collapse under spiritual manipulation. This isn’t church-bashing — it’s truth-telling for men who actually want to grow up, take responsibility, and love their wives like Christ, not a dictator.

We get practical—why accepting influence matters, why “sorry” without change is empty, what real interventions look like, and how to do the work. It’s blunt, faith-aware, and unflinching—but aimed at healing, not shaming.

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