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A Church You Can Breathe In + Life Changing Forgiveness

September 24, 2025

The Briefcase & The Barn is hosted by two Dutch Reformed misfits who’ve spent most of their lives in the church’s side-eye.

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Kyle Van Ruitenburg is the PK and connections guy who’s been around the world (and yes—straight off the boat). Gary Baars is the money guy who’s been around just about every farm and cow.

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Together, they have blunt, funny, real talk about business, life, faith, culture, and the stuff Christians usually don't talk about.

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Recorded on the west coast of Canada in Chilliwack, BC.

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New episodes every Wednesday at 5 am PST.

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Created & produced by The Furiously Curious Company.

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#ToGodBeTheGlory

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🤝 *support the show here *👇

www.furiouslycurious.co/donate

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📞 Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?

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Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: kyle@furiouslycurious.co

Website: https://www.furiouslycurious.com

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Got questions or feedback?

Email Kyle at kyle@furiouslycurious.co

This week, Gary and I crack open two things we all wrestle with: finding a church you can actually breathe in and forgiveness that doesn’t turn you into a doormat.

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We also cover interest rates and the “Messiah complex” that gets us in trouble when we think we can fix people.

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Don't forget to grab your tickets to my Live Event!  

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Live Event Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/leadership-life-lessons-with-colonel-tray-ardese-live-in-chilliwack-tickets-1680267618679?aff=oddtdtcreator

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⏱️ Podcast Chapters:

1:07 Kickoff & Live Event  

4:53 God’s Yearning Bowels?  

13:03 Life Changing Forgiveness  

20:28 Luther & The Bible  

27:53 Money Talk: Rate Cuts Explained  

31:43 Picking a Church  

37:43 Messiah Complex

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📞 Interested in Kyle's Coaching, Recruiting, or Employment Opportunities?

Text Kyle: 1-604-703-9045

Email: kyle@furiouslycurious.co

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💸 Want to Support the Show?

📩 E-Transfer: kyle@furiouslycurious.co

🎥 Patreon: patreon.com/c/furiouslycurious (Watch behind-the-scenes footage & extras)

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Support the Show Here! Patreon

Do you know of someone who would be good to come on the podcast? Email me!
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Thanks for watching, and God bless.

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